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Images being stretched in group comments

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

Anybody else seeing images posted in group comments in the wrong size. When I see images in my group (all "medium" size), they are not "sized" properly and appear to be "stretched" vertically.

When I roll my cursor over the images, only then do they appear in the correct dimensions. If I go back to the page and view them again, the same thing occurs.

I have closed browser and rebooted. All other websites appear normal. Seems to just be flickr...

Example: www.flickr.com/groups/c-c-c/discuss/72157605076376171/

Any help? Thanks.
Posted at 3:25PM, 16 May 2008 PDT ( permalink )
Bryan Olesen edited this topic 2 months ago.

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Patrick Costello  Pro User  says:

flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/70433/#reply433526
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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PannaLover326  Pro User  says:

I'm seeing the same thing, stretched images. It's very annoying! When I go to a group discussion, all the images are stretched. If I run the cursor over the images, it goes back to normal size. This is not a horizontal issue. All images posted are either small or medium size. The images are stretching vertically. Once I run the cursor over each and every one of them to get them to the right size, refreshing or posting a new comment screws them all up again.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

Exactly ! This is not a "Large" size image issue being duscussed in that other thread linked above.

Again, any help? Thanks.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

What browser are you folks using?
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

ATT/Yahoo browser.

Just started happening yesterday. I haven't done any software upgrades.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Andy101  Pro User  says:

T30

should be 887 x 487 - as of yesterday this is shrunk to 500 pixels on the longer side, which in my case makes the lettering unreadable
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

Andy101,

The problem in this thread doesn't deal with "Large" size images.

It deals with "small" and "medium" images being stretched in group thread comments.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Bryan Olesen Which of the photos in the thread you linked in the OP are "stretched"? I ask because I do believe you're seeing something, I just can't replicate it using Firefox. Or is it every image in that thread?
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Andy101  Pro User  says:

It is the same problem and is the result of changes that were made recently at flickr, however if you are that much of an anal thread Nazi that you are more interested in maintaining the on topicness of your precious thread than finding answers then I will go somewhere else.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Andy101 I believe you are looking for this thread:
flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/70433/

And name calling is a great way to get a time-out on the mat. Please don't do it. It's a sure way to not get people to help you.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lú_  Pro User  says:

zyrcster wrote

Andy101 I believe you are looking for this thread:
flickr.com/help/forum/en-us/70433/


That thread was closed by staff. I don't think, though, that they're going to reintroduce large images in posts. Just use a small version and give people a link to the large size. If they want to see it, they can click and see it.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

zyrcster, in the link I provided, the first 4 landscape oriented images are stretched vertically, and the last portrait oriented image is shortened vertically.

Actually, the height of Andy's image above is about twice as tall as it should be after I refresh this page...
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )
Bryan Olesen edited this topic 2 months ago.

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Weird, because I really am seeing them in that thread exactly as they display on the photo pages (not stretched) whether I use Firefox or Safari. I don't have the browser you're using. Have you tried using another browser?
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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ColleenM  Pro User  says:

I'm not seeing any difference in proportion between the in-comment size and the photostream size of those images.

I'm using FF 2.0.0.14 So it is apparently how it's being displayed by your browser than a problem with how Flickr is sending it.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

No, Colleen, not quite. Flickr did add some code to the style sheet for a class "notsowide". I just checked the source, and this thing seems to check for the notsowide only on IE.

I'm about to fire up Windows to check this.

Bryan, if you edit one of those comments in that thread and remove class=notsowide from the img src tag, does the image correctly display?
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

I just tried IE6 and got the same results.

Strange. The only other thing I can try is rebooting the DSL modem but that wouldn't make sense. I cleared cookies and files and rebooted pc.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Here's what in the source for the page:

<!--[if IE]>


img.notsowide {
behavior:expression(fixMaxWidth(this));

}
</style>
*lt;![endif]-->

And you will note a new field in the img src tag when you add an image to a comment (this seems to get added after post, because it's not in the embed code or on the All Sizes page.

class=notsowide
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Bryan, I imagine that the Yahoo browser is Internet Explorer.

Try it using Firefox or Safari -- both of which you can use on Windows.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lú_  Pro User  says:

They look right to me. That first pelican is awesome, too.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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PannaLover326  Pro User  says:

I'm having the same problem. I tried 2 different browsers. That "notsowide" code is not there. It's nearly every picture on every discussion I go to, regardless of size.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

What browser are you using?

I agree, that pelican rocks.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

What 2 browsers did you try? If they are derivatives of IE, I suspect you'll keep getting the stretching thing.

[edit] yes, that notsowide code is there. On the 1st pelican one, it's:

<img class="notsowide" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2125/2492005633_cb7cfebd2b.jpg" width="500" height="310" alt="on its way..." />
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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PannaLover326  Pro User  says:

I tried IE and AOL. Is AOL an IE derivative? I don't have Firefox or Safari.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Lú_  Pro User  says:

zyrcster wrote

What browser are you using?


IE 7.0.5730.11 and Firefox 2.0.0.14.

edit - the "notsowide" thing is there, and seems to be standard; the height info varies image to image
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )
Lú_ edited this topic 2 months ago.

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

I'm not sure about AOL (they used Netscape and IE for a while at various stages).

Firefox and Safari are both free downloads for Windows.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Yup, finally got Windows fired up, and I can confirm this bizarre behavior in IE 6.

For now, until staff checks this out, I suggest using Firefox or Safari. Again, both are free downloads (and you'll see better color in Safari). :)

[edit] or use IE7.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )
zyrcster edited this topic 2 months ago.

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Yea, notsowide is new, it wasn't there previously. I run a challenge group like Bryan's, so I see a lot of html.

I bet this is specific to the IE6 engine, then, Steph, since you don't have it in IE7.

Time to upgrade!
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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PannaLover326  Pro User  says:

Thanks for the confirmation. Thought I was going crazy. Will look into one of the other browsers.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

Thanks guys. Appreciate the help. Does this thread itself notify the staff?
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

To be even more specific, when using IE6, when I first see a photo in a discussion thread, it is stretched vertically so that the entire image is 500x500 regardless of its true proportions. Hovering over the image returns it to its correct proportions, and then it sticks for good.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Yes, it does.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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pompey shoes  Pro User  says:

I had been thinking there was an issue on my machine for the past three days!! Glad I'm not the only one seeing this problem. I'm using IE and if I go back and forth a few times most of the images display properly.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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fatminky  Pro User  says:

I'm also experiencing this problem (in IE 6). Nearly every picture in every group discussion is stretched out of proportion and I have to move my mouse cursor over each one to get them to resize to the correct proportion. It's a real pain!

Flickr staff - can we have some indication that you are aware of this problem and are working to fix it?

Thanks
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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camera_obscura71/vic  Pro User  says:

same problem here.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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ColleenM  Pro User  says:

fatminky

Since it is 4 am on Monday morning in California, I suspect you'll need to wait a while before Flickr staff gets to the office and starts working.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

Dunstan Orchard says:

I've sent a bug case to the relevant developer. He'll look into it.

Sorry for the trouble.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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fatminky  Pro User  says:

Good point Colleen. But surely there should be an international support team working round the clock to ensure I am always receiving a five star flickr service ;-)

Thanks for reporting the problem and letting us know Dunstan.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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kepje  Pro User  says:

the same thing here... I was wondering why someone posts pics like that, but then I saw another one and another... every pic is strange and you see all the pixels and... really annoying, I hope you'll fix it soon...
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

.schill says:

Blasted IE 6! :) Thanks for the report. I noted this when we were originally implementing the "max-width" feature, but thought I had fixed it. (I also noted it didn't seem to be an issue with IE 7.) It's on my to-do list.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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pompey shoes  Pro User  says:

Thanks for the status report, I'm just so pleased it isn't my machine that is playing up :-)
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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kepje  Pro User  says:

thank you .schill :)
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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fatminky  Pro User  says:

It's still happening. Come on Schill, work faster!!
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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JPaul23  Pro User  says:

It's been happening to me for a couple of days. IE7.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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ColleenM  Pro User  says:

fatminky

In the US, we're on a 3-day holiday weekend. Business will start up again on Tuesday morning.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Or, use any other browser but IE6 until they do fix the problem. It's not like there aren't a ton of free ones out there.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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kepje  Pro User  says:

tuesday morning?? it's a little bit annoying, it started over a week ago and earlier it was fine. I don't want to download another browser until they fix it, sounds crazy... :/
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Just saying, you have the ability to work around it until it gets fixed.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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JPaul23  Pro User  says:

"Use another browser"
Ehh, no.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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van swearingen  Pro User  says:

IE6, AOL? *cackles* Well, bless your hearts, dears.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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fatminky  Pro User  says:

I've been patient, but now I'm losing it. This problem is still going on, as it has been for the last two weeks. About half of all the pictures I look at on Flickr are in discussions and they are all being stretched out of shape and look crap.

Please can someone fix the problem, this is a service that some of us are paying for after all, and don't tell me to install another browser as I shouldn't have to change my software to work around a problem you have created.

Thanks
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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JPaul23  Pro User  says:

It's even happening with those flashy gif awards in comments now.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Shaky Steve  Pro User  says:

Thank goodness I found this thread, because I was getting a headache from head-butting my monitor. This "feature" is pretty freakin' annoying.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

.schill says:

Hey folks,

I've pushed a change which may fix this issue - for the record, this is one of the strangest IE 6 bugs I've ever encountered; it's inconsistent, highly annoying and difficult to reproduce. I've tested in IE 6 SP0, SP1 and SP2 and it seems to be showing up only on the first two versions from what I've seen.

Please note in your reply if the issue is fixed for you, or is still occurring. Thanks!
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

.schill,

Still occuring as of today. Images stretch to 500 pixs.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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JPaul23  Pro User  says:

Well, like I said, IE7
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Seapony  Pro User  says:

I still have the problem.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

.schill says:

Bryan Olesen: Large images in comments should be limited to 500px width as a maximum, by design.

We made a change several weeks ago so user images in comments would be limited to 400 pixels in width - to prevent breaking the site layout and avoid unnecessary horizontal scrolling.

We then realised that 400px didn't seem right, given medium-size images on Flickr are 500 pixels and most people just wanted to post medium-size images in comments.

Thus, images displayed inline in comments are limited to 500 pixels in width - and should be shown vertically at the appropriate scale. (eg. a 1000 wide / 500 high image would be displayed at 500/250 pixels.)

There was a bug reported where people were seeing images being resized horizontally, but the vertical scaling part was messing up - ie., the image width changed but the height did not properly resize. Let me know if you're seeing something along those lines with the vertical aspect. Thanks.

Update
I made another tweak to the resizing script, to force oversize images to scale their height properly as well. This applies to IE 6 and IE 7. I still have one test machine (IE 6 on WinXP, SP2) which is misbehaving, though reloading or moving the mouse over the image seems to fix things. Very odd. Still investigating - thanks for your patience.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )
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ßlϋeωãvε  Pro User  says:

Still happening here. IE 6.0.2900 SP2, Win XP SP2. Place the cursor over them and they shrink to their proper size.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

.schill

We only allow medium sized images in our group.

These are both before-and-after a cursor over the image.

Here is what I'm seeing for a "landscape" oriented image:
landscape

Here is what I'm seeing for a "portrait" oriented image:
portrait


Thanks for your time...
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Shaky Steve  Pro User  says:

Yep...IE 6.0.2900 SP2 here, and it's still happening.

LOL @ Bryan Olesen's post...because the images of the problem exhibited the problem themselves.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Seapony  Pro User  says:

I don't know much about the technical details but I have an idea that the problem gets worse.
Posted 2 months ago. ( permalink )

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Shauna Sechrist  Pro User  says:

Still happening, seeing it in small posts too, now (in threads), before it was only the medium posts. Maybe there's progress?
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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Flickr Staff

.schill says:

Update:
Hey folks, I've made another change for the image height goofiness as shown in the screenshots above. I'm still investigating the issue, but I think there's been some progress.
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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fatminky  Pro User  says:

Thanks for letting us know you are working on it, but unfortunately it is still happening for me in IE 6 SP 2.

Small and medium landscape pictures are being stretched taller.
Small and medium portrait pictures are being squished shorter.

Is there anything we need to do to ensure we have the updated flickr code, eg Ctrl+F5?
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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fatminky  Pro User  says:

Actually pressing Ctrl+F5 stretches all the pictures back out of shape again, so I don't recommend doing that!
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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Seapony  Pro User  says:

Last weekend I thought there was been progress indeed.
But now images stretch and shrink again like they did last weeks.
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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kepje  Pro User  says:

I was away last week. I feel like it's a month or so and nothing has been done...
~sigh~
wish you good luck.
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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ßlϋeωãvε  Pro User  says:

Sorry to say I'm seeing the stretching even on the "Comments you've made" pages now, as well as the embeds in group threads. :/
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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Brenda Anderson  Pro User  says:

I don't see any stretching, but I'd just like to say that I really don't like the fact that the page now "bounces around" so much as each image fills in. It used to be that by having the img height/width attributes in the HTML that the page could render properly and then the images would fill in. Now, it bounces up and down constantly, which means you have to wait until all images have loaded before you can read anything on the page.
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

So, what's the status on this now? Because in Firefox I get a lot of bouncing images that are all medium sized regardless of their actual posted size, but in IE now the large size is displayed in discussion threads again.

Can we have this be consistent?

I have members of my groups arguing, "No, it's not posted in large" because they see medium when they post a large if they use Firefox and then other members saying that "it is the large size, get rid of it" because they're viewing it in IE... and I have a handful of confused moderators that don't get what it means to go check the html in the comments to tell what size the image really is.
Posted 6 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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fatminky  Pro User  says:

Not only is this problem still going on, but it's getting worse!!!

Now some pictures do not change to their correct size when I move the mouse over them, and if I go on to another web page and then come back lots of the pictures get stretched out of shape again.

I'm finding it really hard to believe that a business that revolves around displaying images would allow a problem like this to go on for so many weeks. If this is happening for IE 6 and IE 7 users, then surely a large number of your customers are experiencing the problem. And the problem is a big one because basically... STRETCHED PICTURES LOOK SHIT.

It seems that in trying to tackle the problem of people posting large size pictures to discussions, which did not occur very often, and admins could always delete them anyway, you have created a much larger problem. So please roll the Flickr code back to the way it was before and don't implement this change until you have ironed out all the bugs.
Posted 5 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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fatminky  Pro User  says:

It's 21st June and this problem is still going on!!!!!!!!
Posted 5 weeks ago. ( permalink )
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kepje  Pro User  says:

2008.06.22 .....same here....
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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-RobW-  Pro User  says:

Yes, I am still seeing this in IE7.

EDIT: "This" being the vertical scaling problem.
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Seapony  Pro User  says:

2008.06.23
images still stretch and shrink, very annoying!
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

2008.06.25

Aside from still seeing the original problem, now some images are not "clickable" (linked), so we cannot go to see the large version.

See last image in ths challenge: www.flickr.com/groups/c-c-c/discuss/72157605761563373/

EDIT: Sorry, my mistake, the person didn't post the correct URL. My apologies...
Posted 4 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

Any progress yet on this issue?
Posted 2 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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JPaul23  Pro User  says:

No progress as far as I can see.
Posted 2 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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Chrisser  Pro User  says:

I went into the link you posted in your last comment, Bryan Oleson, and the last photo cannot be called up at all, and I am on Firefox 3.0. The other photos in that link I can click and view.
Posted 2 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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zyrcster  Pro User  says:

Did you see his edit? That is a non-issue right now. The person didn't post the correct url at first and then did.
Posted 2 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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John Kratz  Pro User  says:

Any more progress with this? It's still happening, but now some pictures won't revert to their correct proportions on mouse-over.
Posted 2 weeks ago. ( permalink )

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fatminky  Pro User  says:

12 July 2008 - This problem is still occuring and if anything it has got worse. Please can we have some response from Flickr staff to tell us what is being done to fix this issue.
Posted 8 days ago. ( permalink )

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Bryan Olesen  Pro User  says:

07/13 - bumped this to see if there has been any progress... thanks.
Posted 7 days ago. ( permalink )

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luvdatrodinal says:

I'm having the same problem in IE6. Also, Flickr keeps locking up. Error message w/ Ctl - Alt - Delete - "not responding"

When I use Firefox, I have no problems.
Posted 7 days ago. ( permalink )

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Hello//Vertigo says:

Same issue in IE6 here, just wanted to put a bump in. Glad to hear that it's being worked on, though. :)
Posted 5 days ago. ( permalink )

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